General Grievous[]
The guy has shown to be pretty hateable and has shown some moments of ineptness, but overall, he isn't dimwitted.
George Harvey (Film Version)[]
While he's a vile child rapist/killer and has moments of cowardice and stupidity, he's too charismatic to qualify.
Yo, whoever wrote those two suggestions, please mark your names with four of these ~. PokemonMasterH (talk) 00:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Emilia Ludowell[]
Despite that she was an arrogant and cowardly racist blob who was easily outwitted and beaten by the half-demon Anos who placed a curse that permanently reduced her from a 100% demon to a half-demon that haplessly suffered from the same half-demon racism she supported, she eventually redeems herself. PokemonMasterH (talk) 00:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Bert Coleman[]
Reason: Not Incompetent/Unintelligent Enough
While he is indeed very pathetic as he humiliates whoever was in the show for making the wrong answer in front of national television by labeling the loser as a "liar", having his staff beat up said "liar" and insulting them directly to their face (which is what happen to Rigby) and even telling Rigby (when he offers a rematch) that if he were to lose again then the episode of him failing will be played on repeat every day for a whole year as a way to torment Rigby mentally and for Bert to enjoy it he's still the host of a popular trivia show implying that he is at least knowledgeable of any topic and is successful. He is also implied to be able to warp reality as he brings Rigby to a video game-esque dimension before his rematch.
Eustace Bagge[]
While he does has a lot of episodes that would have made him count, he also has episodes that make him too sympathetic such as detailing the abusive childhood he had. He also had a moment where he fought Katz which was the complete opposite of pathetic. All this plus the fact he is often too comedic to count. In the end, while he is a pinhead in practically every episode, he has too many moments that keep him from being pathetic by making him too sympathetic/comedic.
RJ White[]
He's a minor antagonist within the second half of Just Add Magic's second season, as well as the main antagonist of the episodes "Just Add Fluffy" to "Just Add Gumdrops".
For some brief context, RJ's a former protector of the Cookbook, who in high school was chosen -- alongside his closest friends Nöelle Jasper and Caroline Palmer -- to solve mysteries within their area. However, the three of them were completely reckless and selfish with their usage of the power, and mostly used the magic for personal gain. After they graduated high school, the cookbook moved on from them, but the trio was just as troublesome as ever. They'd serve as the main antagonists of Season 2B. Caroline's an approved Magnificent Baddie so she's out of the question, and Noelle also would have been an MB if she had a more graceful outing. The point is, Caroline and Noelle are both extremely smart and talented at cooking and scheming... but the same can't be said for RJ.
Compared to Caroline -- who was able to disguise herself and impersonate a different lady to gain access to and nearly destroy all sources of magic (including wiping the protectors' memories), and Noelle -- who was able to open a successful restaurant and regularly spells her customers into loving her subpar/bland food, and has a public appearance of a calm Zen-like lady, RJ seems like an easy keeper for PP considering he:
- Talked to Scott Quinn and claimed that Becky was under a spell when the former asked why Becky "sick". (Granted, he was right, but still. He had no proof of this, and came off as a crackpot)
- Somehow thought it was a good idea to do a news interview about how he won the lottery and the Trifecta in the same day, giving him unnecessary attention, and giving Kelly (and by extension her friends) reason to suspect that RJ had taken the cookbook.
- Brought the magic cookbook with him in public, instead of hiding it in his bedroom, or a bookshelf, or somewhere secure. This confirms to the girls that RJ had taken the cookbook.
- Is a terrible cook, as shown during a montage of him creating a muffin. Getting some shells in the bowl when cracking some eggs (and having to take them out with him hands), rapidly dumping the cake mix into the bowl, not properly measuring the olive oil or the water (which he drank out of), and using a large spoon to mix everything up, and pour the mix in the cupcake wrappers. Considering there's magic involved in the recipes, this can be extremely dangerous, and make the spell act differently than it should.
- Discovered a recipe suspiciously and vaguely titled "Get Whatever You Want Gumdrops", and yet immediately decides to cook the recipe without a second thought. FYI: The recipe had a fake title, and was actually meant to trick RJ into giving up the cookbook and returning it to the girl trio, meaning RJ played right into the girls' hands, hook, line and sinker.
...however, in spite of these pointers, he ultimately can't be a Pathetic Pinhead for the following reasons.
- Compared to both of his former partners who managed to accomplish more and worse with the cookbook's magic, RJ's ironically the least evil member of his trio. While he does use the book to gain perks and is childish and selfish, he simply wanted to make his own life more convenient and seemed to have some rough times. Plus, his usage of magic doesn't place a lot innocent people at risk or in danger, in contrast to his partners.
- But the real reason he can't be a Pathetic Pinhead is because he's too sympathetic and his outing makes him too much of a scapegoat to be truly worthy of the PP label. You see, near the end of "Just Add Gumdrops", RJ realized someone was after the magic, and what does he do? He immediately gets the girl trio to meet up with him with Mama P's -- without trying to steal the cookbook back -- and tries to warn the girls that they were all in danger, clearly in a panicked state, only to lose his memories and knowledge of magic mid-sentence. This is actually portrayed in a sympathetic manner, to the point where the girls actually showed some pity for him. If he were truly meant to be a Hate Sink, let alone a Pathetic Pinhead, the girls wouldn't have gave a damn about him losing his magic memories. If anything, they'd be relieved... but that's not what happened. Again, RJ's the least evil member of his trio, and I'm willing to bet that had he not gotten his memories of magic wiped, he likely would have considered redeeming himself and aiding the heroes in stopping the threat. RJ is the "Not Pathetic Enough" type, and possibly not enough of a pinhead. He's a scapegoat, remorseful, and possibly Affably Evil. Three strikes RJ, you're outta here!
The Amazing World Of Gumball[]
The dumbest characters in the show are far too likable and comedic to qualify, and the characters that are detestable enough aren't dumb enough to qualify.
Preston Northwest[]
Is a master manipulator. Don't ask me why, ask the user who made his page also master manipulators cannot be allowed.
Drake (The Pebble and the Penguin)[]
Listen up. He obviously doesn’t qualify for the same reasons as Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, especially because several fans compare Drake to him. As deplorable as he is, he is way too smart to qualify as he is a very influential figure in the rookery, such as when the narrative heavily implies he has successfully gotten the entire rookery (except Marina) to believe Hubie has gotten killed from the Leopard Seal and he is capable of charming every female penguin in the Rookery.